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	<title>Comments on: Conduit 0.3.4 - 37% more integrated</title>
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	<description>Who needs facts when you have anecdotal evidence?</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.johnstowers.co.nz/blog/index.php/2007/10/03/conduit-034-37-more-integrated/#comment-13983</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice. I'm looking forward to future releases.

Can we, however, get rid of the tree view dotted lines and the horizontal scrollbar of the right drawing area? I think they look make things look unclean and unattractive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice. I&#8217;m looking forward to future releases.</p>
<p>Can we, however, get rid of the tree view dotted lines and the horizontal scrollbar of the right drawing area? I think they look make things look unclean and unattractive.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Walters</title>
		<link>http://www.johnstowers.co.nz/blog/index.php/2007/10/03/conduit-034-37-more-integrated/#comment-13973</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks pretty cool.  Some quick comments:

&#62; if the browser is currently running on a different virtual desktop to conduit, the user often doesnt notice the web browser go to the login website.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=223492 is fixed now and the backported patch will be in Fedora 8.

As for the login issues - yeah, integrating with private data on web sites is a pain.  web-login-driver is kind of a hack and one that admittedly, web site operators may not like.  However it would let you avoid requiring the user to log in separately to services.  I have some ideas on how to improve web-login-driver that could make it a bit more palatable, will post more on that later.

What you're doing now with respect to login is the way web site operators generally seem to expect things to work and so it is going to the most robust solution in the short term.

As for the larger conduit/online-desktop integration, I've always said Conduit looks like a good technology (looking even better now!) and it would make a lot of sense to use it for some of the online-desktop goals like getting photos stored locally uploaded online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks pretty cool.  Some quick comments:</p>
<p>&gt; if the browser is currently running on a different virtual desktop to conduit, the user often doesnt notice the web browser go to the login website.</p>
<p><a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=223492" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/bugzilla.mozilla.org');" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=223492</a> is fixed now and the backported patch will be in Fedora 8.</p>
<p>As for the login issues - yeah, integrating with private data on web sites is a pain.  web-login-driver is kind of a hack and one that admittedly, web site operators may not like.  However it would let you avoid requiring the user to log in separately to services.  I have some ideas on how to improve web-login-driver that could make it a bit more palatable, will post more on that later.</p>
<p>What you&#8217;re doing now with respect to login is the way web site operators generally seem to expect things to work and so it is going to the most robust solution in the short term.</p>
<p>As for the larger conduit/online-desktop integration, I&#8217;ve always said Conduit looks like a good technology (looking even better now!) and it would make a lot of sense to use it for some of the online-desktop goals like getting photos stored locally uploaded online.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Langridge</title>
		<link>http://www.johnstowers.co.nz/blog/index.php/2007/10/03/conduit-034-37-more-integrated/#comment-13961</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Langridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Option 3 is related to option 2: write your own web browser (just a window with a gtkmozembed in it) but don't have it block until the user closes it; if you're a gtkmozembed then you can hook the "gone to a new page" event. So Conduit pops up a window showing (say) the facebook login page, and watches for page-navigate events; when you get one, check its url, and if it's to facebook.com/now-logged-in or whatever then you know they've logged in. It'd require you to watch Facebook etc to see if they've changed their URLs, but that's all doable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Option 3 is related to option 2: write your own web browser (just a window with a gtkmozembed in it) but don&#8217;t have it block until the user closes it; if you&#8217;re a gtkmozembed then you can hook the &#8220;gone to a new page&#8221; event. So Conduit pops up a window showing (say) the facebook login page, and watches for page-navigate events; when you get one, check its url, and if it&#8217;s to facebook.com/now-logged-in or whatever then you know they&#8217;ve logged in. It&#8217;d require you to watch Facebook etc to see if they&#8217;ve changed their URLs, but that&#8217;s all doable.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimble</title>
		<link>http://www.johnstowers.co.nz/blog/index.php/2007/10/03/conduit-034-37-more-integrated/#comment-13919</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing work! Im really impressed! 

The only thing missing is bluetooth synchronization with cellphones..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing work! Im really impressed! </p>
<p>The only thing missing is bluetooth synchronization with cellphones..</p>
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		<title>By: Mårten Woxberg</title>
		<link>http://www.johnstowers.co.nz/blog/index.php/2007/10/03/conduit-034-37-more-integrated/#comment-13904</link>
		<dc:creator>Mårten Woxberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inclusion in Gnome would be cool, but what about Calendar syncronization via Bluetooth to different cell phones?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inclusion in Gnome would be cool, but what about Calendar syncronization via Bluetooth to different cell phones?</p>
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		<title>By: dre</title>
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		<dc:creator>dre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome work dude, you rock! Will try and report back asap.

What about inclusion of Conduit in Gnome 2.22?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome work dude, you rock! Will try and report back asap.</p>
<p>What about inclusion of Conduit in Gnome 2.22?</p>
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